Ty peeps. my intuition was to stay put, just glad you all agree. Think the line about the one who wants out should get out is fair enough too, but I'm not at that junction yet.

I've read venus/mars and can totally associate with it. Beginning to think that where I'm at is that W thinks it's to late and therefore I reallly need to be super me and keep up with the changes I'm making for me. If you don't love yourself (and I had started to dislike myself in all honesty) how can anyone else love ya. (Mums and dads excused !!!).

Another pleasent evening, not much said, but W did not go out as she does most Mondays. Also a pleasent morning and we both slept well as kids didn't stir at all and my W has always been one that needs sleep.

We did discuss some plans for schoo holidays though so don't think my W is in a rush to move on, but that is the confusing bit. We will see and I need to just remain patient, keep working on me and things will take car of themselves.

Thanks for book recommendation. I was also refering to the e-mail mailers I get that you come accross when googling variations of save my marriage, seperation etc etc. Anyone ever paid for one of those e-books ?