Sorry but I have another question for you Christa, when you decided you wanted to work on your R, had you and your H worked out the friendship part or did you just wake up one day and realize it was time to save your M? The reason I ask this is because right now, W and I can have good coversations, mainly about kids or baseball or whatever it is that's on our mind at the time. I guess since my friend told me he basically cut contact out with his W other than calling kids and directly asking to speak to the kids, I'm wondering if this is something I need to do. In your time as the WAW, did any contact with H make it feel like you had pressure on you. I know you don't have kids and I will have to call the house to speak to W if she answers, just makes me wonder if I should not do any talking other than asking to speak to the kids.