ya know MMi dont know how you do it. as i said imn my last post i broke down and cried because of my W acting like your W. the dinners..the fun messages..its like we are M but our W's just cant seem to get the fact they need to commit. they get this ticket were they can just act like they want because they dont " feel" like being M. M is work. M is hard. M and L both need to be cultivated and worked on by both parties. i almost resent being a nice husband fiqure right now and yet I'm not IN a M, I'm in a frendship were my W gets to have a H but dosent have to act like a W