no i here ya on the ring. my W says we are working on the M but she hasent had her ring on since Jan. the sad part it in any sepaqration one part wants it to work more then the other one does. I dont know about your sitch enough but my W likes to say since she dosent feel all the way comitied she feels that she shouldn't have to wear her ring. this of course makes us commited partners feel like they are putting themselves out there. and in a way they are.