We can't seem to DB ourselves out of this paper bag, huh??
Yes, Lwb, my friend, even when the paper bag is wet we can't seem to break loose. I am far more confident of your skills than my own, however. Night and day difference there.
Unfortunately in many cases, it is mostly up to our wayward spouses how things turn out, in the end. Especially where the kids are concerned. I think the secondary benefits of DB'ing would and do benefit us in such cases. If only I can make them real for myself, somehow. I am getting there, but for me that means no longer holding out any hope of reconciliation in any form. I am afraid I may have to just face the facts that W might very well succeed in alienating me from my S's, no matter how hard I try -- maybe even because I am trying so hard. (I am still trying to sort it out in my mind.)
I want you to know I continue to think about you and am praying for you and your girls. Come what may, I just have faith you will be alright.