W said it was over w/OM...don't think so

[Mark1965]

Doing my part,

Brother I/We are walking the same road - Seems like no-where to turn .. Well wrong -

See you are seeking the support and help.. Here with us.. Post, Scream, cry - We have all done it or are continuing to feel and suffer the same pains..

I have been given the best advise -I could have ever gotten - from anywhere.. So again you are finally home with those who feel your pain and desire the best results possible..

So - it is my turn to attempt to help ..

1) You are correct..Give it to the LORD.. Changage him to guide you into living in his will and way - You have fallen - Please carry you and your burdens into his hands - HIS CONTROL..

2)Work on you 1st.. Not for her - but like YOU stated-
"I WILL EVENTUALLY FIND MY OLD SELF-AGAIN.. "
Well start finding that person - Right now- today .. Is it tough - Damn Skippy..

3) Keep going to GYM and work it off.. AGAIN -YOU ARE CORRECT- When in private - Scream , cuss, call names whatever-
BUT GET IT OUT OF YOU - ...

4) Place blame on (W) as the (1ST OM)is only pressuring and wandering through available doors being opened by (W)and he is doing only what comes naturally..

5)Indentify - Why is she allowing new doors to (OM)'S ??
As you stated - You know or feel she doesn't think you will succeed and change ? But why -

WHY - We men and woman Forget our roles ..
Here is what I believe she is telling you ??
She wants a MAN
She needs a Leader
She desires a PROTECTOR
She needs you to listen more closely ..
I am sure she didn't wake up one day - Find someone and do all that in one day.. ? Did she ?
She has for sure been talking to you - We men hear everything different than what (woman) are saying -
Men work off of LOGIC
Woman work off emotion -

The following advise below in my opinion only ..
My solutions were taken from makin gher happy dot com

I bought the online book .. To save my (R) and in 2 short days of following it to a T-Wham - She is where I always wanted and in my life never had another HUMAN before.. GFor us it is working TODAY..
It is my hope - We as a couple continue working on our self's and also re-creating the attraction - Allowing time in this 2nd honeymoon - She is really talking to me from her heart.. I am from my heart talking with her .. She brings it to me.. Seeking the answers and my thought's on OUR solutions .. My G/F wants and needs that man to guide her safely ..
I hope it doesn't hurt - It will though - But remember it must get a little worse to get any better - NO PAIN - NO GAIN..

Why then are you doing that now to her..Working from emotion?
It is obvious to her you love her - YOUR NOT CHEATING ..
I do not believe any woman wants a man on emotion .
How can you protect her - If she gets upset and you do to..
Instead of being a Leader and guiding her though to safety ??
Isn't that what she needs from ANY MAN..
She wants to laugh and be young again -IN LOVE -
We all need EXCITEMENT in our LIFE..
SAFE IN A MAN'S HAND..
Men place their hands into the LORDS hand to guide us men !!
When we feel tramp - bored - stuffed - We wonder off and look around for this basic HUMAN needs ..

But remember this - I saw it here on the bottom of a poster-
THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER OVER THE SEPTIC TANK ?? We forget our very natural instincts man or woman?? WHY ? But Our partners - Like being Naughty, it will bring on Attraction again.It will provide then oppty to work on everything.. most importantly - your self 1st THEN your(M)and (R) ..
OM's then become less attractive - and your her focas..
Be mysterious with her.. I only had to go dark a few days -THANK GOD !! -I was falling apart and hand shanking uncontrolable..

I am still onward with my 180 and GAL .. It no matter what is for me - I ask her to come along - If she isn't their when it was time - I left her - Why ?? It is for me now - Not her ..


So I find it hard to believe -
You were a lazy -
No-load SOB -She was attracted to - When she met you?? NOT !!!!
I am sure you were funny?
You where confident ..
You had GOALS and DIRECTION and FOCUS
She wants to know you will place every ounce of effort in the proper place - Fighting for HER .. Not him..
It will drive her to him even more - It may seem like control issues from you towards her and THEM..

So be your OLD SELF - GO FIND IT TODAY ..
If it doesn't work -Then at-least -Look how far it will down a new heathier road you will be?? Not her - YOU !!!

My G/F has called me and is already back - Thinking of me all day and calling me -This is what I had before - That is before my G/F (OM) ..

I haven't posted this update on my thread yet..
But I again am following the heart felt advise given to me from others on this board and chasing every lead I find though reading successful stories found from her and others pains found here and their solutions .. If someone here recommends a book - I google it and attempt to see - If it brieftly could help me ??

We all want ot drive and live in the best of everything - So do we follow though who have never achieved it - or do we follow the proven method and study it - think on it try it ??

Brother -I / we on this board are here for each-other - So
keep doing the things you are now -
1St here for suport and understanding and possible solutions

Work on your self .. I recommended a book earlier in this post .. Take a chance and glance over it .. If it works for you -Then try it .. Place your burdens upon the LORD -Get rid of it before it gets rid of you..

Think out the box- OR -let the box take you to the GRAVE..

Come on - You will do it ..

Your Brother and I remain Very Respectful (V/R),
Mark