I understand your frustration. As I was sitting here catching up on your thread I was thinking, if they would go to Retrouvaille, they could have a chance. And then I got to the part where you said you were asking him to go to Retro. So that is good. But it seems to me that you might have expectations about Retro that are wrong. People think because there is a priest there that they make you think about why you took your vows and the religious part of it. I dont' remember that happening. Retro made us think about ourselves and what we wanted in life. It made us think of our lives together and the good times we had shared. It made us think about what is really meaningful to us as people. And it made us think about what we would be willing to change about ourselves to get along better with each other. It taught us to open up to each other and talk about all of those things. And when we did talk about all those things, we felt connected to each other again. We looked into each others eyes, and heart and soul, and we liked what we saw again. That is the experience I think you and your husband could benefit from. I hope he will go with you.