Which pain are you talking about? I have tried to be the bigger person in the past, didn't work out so well. Think what it feels like to try counseling and have your wife tell you that she despises you. Yes, that is exactly what she said. She has never changed or apologized for that statement. Maybe I should shoot a little higher, share the bed, no sex for the next 11 years. Live like friends. I wonder if she would consider an open marriage? Of course that would just frustrate me. It takes nothing for a good looking woman to get sex in a bar.