Thanks Puppy. I figured DS15 kind of had an idea, but he was spot on with all his observations. DS19 kind of knew we were having problems from conversations he and DS15 had, but he didn't know why.

There's a big part of me that hopes she wakes up when the kids start ripping on her, but I just don't see that happening. I see us separating and the OM hurting her (like DS15 said he thought would happen) and maybe then she might come back, but maybe not. She's the Emperor of Stubborn and might not be willing to admit she f'd up and give us a chance. But I've also read quite a few threads here and on another website where the kids were what finally woke the wayward spouse up.

We'll see.


Hope4us

Me - 49, W 49
S22 & S18
Dday 9/4/07
W claims NC 4/7/08
8/29/09 - Divorce Busted. Lots to work through, but we're going to make it.