I don't think my H was ever that close to his father to begin with, but the family suffered a crisis when H was in his early teens. FIL's A's and possible subsequent family is something my H doesn't talk about. Nobody in the family does. The issue continues to this day and still hasn't been resolved almost 20 years later.

Since then, my H has been the one to leave a R before the other person leaves him.

I think the things our MLCer's went through were so unimaginably horrible, it's difficult to ever know how it would feel and what kind of emotional damage was caused. I wonder if they themselves realize the damage that was caused and fail to see it as one of the demons they have to face.

AH, if you could remember whose thread this topic was discussed on, I'd love to try to dig it up.

Thanks to all who have shared your stories...