LOL. I know exactly what you mean. They only are willing to change when they realize that they cant have you, etc. I will tell you this, she admitted to me she has relapsed, and she came to me to tell me which is new wrinkle. Typically when she does anything *wrong* initially she will hide, lie, deny, and cover like her life depends on it. This time she just came out and told me, because she feels horrible about it. That IS change, its a measure of honesty I have NEVER heard from her, who knows maybe she is starting to "get it" a little...


Me: 37, engineer, former Marine
Her: 33, HS dropout, retail sales
Kids: 3 Daughters 11,9,3
2 Dogs
Seperated since Jun07