Duck fish, the endorphins are coming, the endorphins are coming! I've been where you are heading, fish! I know what it was like to sit across from the sweetest little thing on the planet and watch her eyes fill with tears while she says "I hurt so badly inside for you". I heard words like "you are such a strong man, I can't imagine how you've lived the way you have for so many years, you just amaze me" OMG, talk about feeling connected! It is so powerful to make this kind of connection when you are feeling so hurt, betrayed and undesirable. But fish, ya know what, it can turn so quickly that your head will spin. Then you'll find yourself grieving the loss of your M (and you will grieve that loss) and at the same time be crushed by the loss of your friend. You are not emotionally ready to deal with that if it happens, none of us are if we're on this board. Fish if this woman is worth your time she will still be there, as will the chemistry, six months from now. Lastly, if you want good relations with your ex (and you do) for the sake of raising your child don't mess around with her friend at this point, it's a bad, bad move. I trust you will take this as a love tap and not a 2 X 4! I can't seem to find where I put that darn thing