Mink and Marcus, My W is very depressed so drink and depression do not mix well. She gets nasty and that is not the real her. Physical separation is what she wanted but I have been advise because of her depression and anger issues that it would be dangerous for our kids. My kids do not want me to move out but would like it if she did. She has been advised by her L not to move out. We are at a standstill. She said this morning that we need to seperate. I said nothing. I do not want to move out and would be afriad for my kids. We have discussed splitting time at an apartment but i think that would be very confusing for the kids and us. I wish we could just work this thing out. If she would just be kinder and speak nicer it would go a long way. She is in a ton of pain. She again told a MC today that she did not love me. The MC called me back and said that basically what she was saying was she did not love herself, therefore it was hard to love anyone. Thanks for your support.