Hi Chevelle,

Psychological studies have shown that, when put under pressure, people are more likely to change their morals to fit their desired behaviour, than to change their behaviour to be more in line with their original morals.

isnt that sad?

These sites that you mention, are usually set up by people who have a set of behaviours they want to keep doing, that are disapproved by the bible. So, they decide to attempt to either rewrite, or trivialize, what the bible says in the area that they are in conflict with.
[or sometimes to be more popular, or even just to make money]

That long paragraph that you wrote, claming "God is doing the separating".... I presume that you got that from the site named "divorcehope.com" and/or the book by the same name. The ENTIRE SITE'S PURPOSE, is to make people feel less guilty about divorce.
Not "to seek God's will". but "to make people feel less guilty about divorce".
And to buy his book.


Do you see the terrible trap in that?

I took a quick look at the site, and it has some really nasty twists and traps that misuse the bible. It would take a lot of writing to debunk all the stuff they are claming.
So instead I shall cut to the heart of the matter.


If you wish to adjust your morals, to your desired behaviour of divorcing your wife, then you may end up doing so, no matter what I or others might say.


If, on the other hand, you are interested in what God has to say to us, through the bible, then i suggest taking a deep look at it yourself, rather than through the biased filters of those websites with their own agendas instead of God's agenda.



Look at the literal translations, and assorted other translations, for yourself. Then judge for yourself. I agree that some of the translations are.. shall we say, way out there. However, there are some that are more helpful, while still being faithful to the original text.
There are various websites that allow you to see multiple translations of the same passage. for example,

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=19

Which offers, among other things, "young's literal translation".
One can assume that there is no bias going on there, but just the "raw" words as close to the original as possible.

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Generally speaking, I think that both YLT and the KJV, are clear enough in Jesus's overall purpose, in the first part of matthew chapter 19. However, you dont have to be a greek scholar(i am not one either ;\) ), to get the "big picture" reguardless:
Just look at the whole flow of the "conversation" between the pharisees and Jesus.

They first come at him with "is it lawful to divorce for any reason you feel like"?
Jesus's first reply, does not even acknowlege that divorce exists AT ALL! He only talks about how "two become one".

They get what he's saying. They understand what he's saying is "you shouldnt divorce even for MAJOR reasons, let alone for any reason that you feel like". That is why their next question is basically, "well, if we arent supposed to divorce, then why does it exist in the first place?!!"

And Jesus's answer is essentially, "because you people were too hard of heart to forgive in all cases. So Moses got sick of your complaints and said you could divorce, if and only if in the extreme case of infidelity.".

Last edited by Dom R; 03/18/08 12:13 AM.

My current status: june 2006. Wife ran out and filed D.
Finalized Jan 11, 2010, after 12.5 years M.
3 wonderful sons caught in the middle