KAW...I might have read about your D17, ...did your w have a bad time with her mom? We can do and say alot to our spouses, but to push a daughter away could be so harmful to all involved...I know I have no real advice, I have a terrific relationship with my kids, s23 and d20, we butt heads, of course, but I feel such sadness when I hear of m and d who don't get along... If you feel like the same thing is happening to your younger d, then you owe to both your d to step in and make w see the harm it can do. Sorry..I have rambled on..it is always easier to write what I think you should do..you have the wisdom and strength to do what you know is right. It makes me feel good to maybe give you some kind of encouragement though!!!