Holly ... you lil lurker you. I know you think you are hiding behind that pole, but ... well, I think I see your assets shaking to the music.

CharlieG ... very nice.

There are several Survivors that hate to see anyone having to fight a MLCer for their M. Standing is so hard to do in the face of an A or OP. Toss in MLC and it becomes a wonder anyone survives, or stands. But thank God some do, and some reconcile, and it gives hope to the multitudes that made a second home here or lurk in search of direction. I wish we could reach out more, but the journey does take a toll and going back to the other threads can sometimes bring back bad memories.

I have written and then deleted several posts here lately. Pondering ... will this one end in (Delete)? I don't want to be unfair or post in anger. Isn't that what we learned to do with the WAS? Write down the pain and anger, then throw it away and let it go. I recall that we also preach Patience. Believe me when I say I've searched for patience.

Some changes to the MLC forum have been troubling to see. Some changes may have been appropriate. I have no idea how and when the Laws Of The MLC Forum suddenly dictated that a select few would "know" what is best for so many. Maybe they do. Maybe they would have been nice to have around a few thousand posts ago. Maybe if during recent months and years here, we had seen real time examples of SolutionJournals and core DB principles changing the outcome for more MLC LBSes ... we wouldn't be having these discussions. Just an observation. I embrace "better late than never" when done well. Yes, patience please.

So where are we? I understand the current mantra is "change". Ok

A sudden burst of change has appeared where there was a void. It has been surprising, and unsettling. There has been housekeeping of the forum, banning members, and restoring of some misplaced DB principles. We were confused when the forum software and color scheme changed but we adjusted. Now we find the banning confusing and even hurtful. Why this one? Why not that one? I would have voted if I had known, maybe twice. We didn't even know that we had forsaken DB principles. Please list the pages so we can look them up and help others find their way. Please highlight the ones that are most affective when dealing with MLC. Were they in a special section we missed? And then there is the approval vs disapproval of individuals who are the only ones that can know if the time has come for them to change the direction of their own journey.

Camps are forming between those that approve of this but not that. We like that one but not this one. And it must all be someone's fault. Yes, I think it is.

"Ours"

We are the only ones that can sort things out for the best and adjust. Would we have ever have come to this forum if we saw all this unhappiness? How could we have expected to find useful support in all this? How can we expect to offer any?

I'm amazed at so much change in the MLC FORUM. I have read that is was a disaster and needed it. I know some say it was working fine for them before. Clearly not all votes are equal here. We have been told and then reminded that Michele owns this domain name and the books we all looked to for help. Her rules. Someone gets to moderate in the name of her rules. Someone gets to say "Great" and someone gets to say "Dang". Makes me say "Potato". Where's it all going? Thinking .... (Delete)... no, not yet.

Standing vs Not Standing. Please post a reference to Michele's DB pages that say there is only one right answer so we can clear that up in good DB fashion.

Inferences have been made that MLC is an excuse used to avoid proper DBing. Inferences have been made that the very existence of MLC is unlikely and most of these WAS just wanted out. Someone says accept it, suck it up, and get over it. Is that some kind of DB support? If this forum is supposed to be getting cleaned up and redirected to core DB principles, fine. Please reference Michele's DB pages that say MLC doesn't exist and believing it does will certainly get you stuck in a hopeless limbo of your own making so we can clear that up. Change the forum name to ThereIsNoSuchThingAsMidlifeCrisis. Michele, please take all references to it out of the DB/DR books so we can clear that up. Or perhaps, share the pages that say when we are supposed to suck it up and get over it, cuz I'm confused.

If there is such a thing as MLC and there are only certain situations where it warrants someone having a thread here, maybe the moderator could pin the rules up so we can clear that up. Please include the requirements and limitations for Standing so we can make it a less devisive subject. Maybe believing in MLC gives some folks a perspective in their situation that offers them some kind of hope. Maybe no more or no less than in the case of a more classic WAS. Still, something they find here makes sense to them in their new life of "facing MLC head on". Unless of course, they can't find the articles they were told to go read at the beginning of the forum. Thinking .... (Delete)... no, not yet.

Not til I finally ask this question. "Exactly" what was not DB appropriate on the MLC threads or with the banned members, and "Exactly" what do the moderator(s) know from attending Michele's workshops that Michele says can be applied specifically to DBing most effectively through a MLC? Isn't that the name of the forum? Inquiring minds think answers would help clear the air.

Dang ... (Submit) got in the way of (Delete) ... sorry.