W2G, Your quote worked! I understand and agree with what you are saying but I seem to have gotten nowhere with that so far. At least if there's contact of some sort I can keep the validation thing going - but unless I take the initiative this does not happen as I have seen again the past week. I don't want to go dark again unless it helps the cause which I'm not sure about at this point. All you guys seem to have regular contact with your spouses (even intimate in your case) which I think helps move things along. On the weekend I got a call from an old friend of ours you said she had heard about things and was really sorry, etc. and asked for my wife's # to call her; I can't really stop this sort of thing and I don't know if it ends up hurting my cause either. I know I'm supposed to be in PMA and GAL mode but I think I'm very tired now. -fb2