I'm not a big tattoo fan myself, I don't have any, myself. S19's is high enough on his arm not to show when he has a regular shirt on (the Marines, of all people, have some new tattoo rules, imagine that!). S18 purposely got his where he could go to an interview, or pretty much anywhere except the beach or the pool, and it won't be seen. I still don't really see the point, but they spent their own money, and they are 18! Ir that's the worst they do, well, they can get another one! IO think I'd prefer the tattoo to the lip ring! But I hear what you are saying. If a lip ring was what he wanted, and he is out of any other trouble, who's complaining?!