To her credit she did go talk to her after I did, and she talked to D17 who was annoyed that we keep bringing this up with her.

Originally Posted By: Bworl
You can't help a person who is lost and refuses to ask for directions. You can do NOTHING for your wife at this point. She has given in to helplessness and packaged it as empowerment. The delusion is now complete, and the only way to shatter it now is to apply her facade to the reality of life.
Ah, but you forget that she does have help. She has her 'spiritual friends' who will help her find herself through 'energy work' and 'Qui-Gong' and other self centered stuff. She has her 40 yr old girlfriend who has no concept of relationships or marriage or parenting yet has been her 'friend' through each break up we've had but never ever thought about what W could be doing WRONG, other that 'putting up with Frank'.

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YOU on the other hand sound pretty stable and that's a good thing. You sound at peace from an acceptance and reality standpoint, and that's good. You're seeing clearly and it sounds like you know what you have to do to continue working your way back to the solid Frank that we know you are.
Yes. Hurting but stable. W also 'appears' to be fine with all this. Calm, matter of fact, detached.


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Take care of those girls.
Oh, you can count on that.


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