OK, you will never know where the road not taken leads. But there are a lot of situations on this board. I have seen several where the wife promised if only the husband would move out things would get better and there would be a hope of reconciliation. And you know what? Those men are still in apartments. They are getting divorces -- DaveJ, No Code Blue, Dom someone. They all say that they were too trusting and too nice, and they didn't do themselves any favors.