Yikes, sorry if I have offended people here, but I am here for the same reason as everyone else - to get support in order to get through this horrible time. I am as good a person as anyone else here, no better, no worse. I KNOW I don't have the answers, and know that a marriage takes two, and that I'm not blameless, but, as many here can attest, it is hard for "civilians" to understand what we are dealing with. I want to continue to learn all I can, for H, for M, AND for me. Happy, I'm sorry if my request upset you. I really respect the fact that you are willing to participate in this kind of forum.