We had some very nice cool professional people who had for one reason (or human weakness) or another, allowed things, events, circumstances, very poor judgment, people, and most of all their actions inflict the most horrendous pain and suffering on the person whom they have sworn to forsake all others for and to protect etc. (sound familiar...sounds like 99.9% of the posts here and everywhere on this topic) and then once they were confronted with the damage they had done ...took inventory of themselves and their actions and in some circumstances followed the DB type of playbook and then slowly put it all back together again. I was impressed with their insights and men (and women) if you ever wanted to let your spouse know the torture and pain and absolute terror and hurt they have inflicted upon you through acts of infidelity ...then take them to a weekend .... some of the tesifying by these people ...some even years after the fact was absolutely gut wrenching and you could see it on their face and you could hear it in their voice ...they cried (and blubbered some) and you felt their pain ...women who had cheated among us ...cried when they heard the black, empty, sleepless, gut wrenching, life altering, sense of total betrayal and shock that the man (or woman) feels when this happens and the descriptions of their pain was so extremely well presented it made your hair stand on end and gave you goose bumps. Even the most selfish evil person in the room would never knowlingly inflict that kind of horrible pain on another living soul ..those of you who have been there know what I am talking about ... then they hear how they went about the business of forgiving and healing and loving even stronger than before once again ...the love these people had for each other was fantastic and inspiring and very very courageous ... you sift through alot of stuff and these presentations really help you sort thru the mess that is your marriage quickly and positively and if you surrender what you think works and what you think your spouse will respond to or not and put down the masks that you wear for your spouse to see the real you who loves him or her and if the two of you don't walk out of that weekend changed and with a new outlook ...then your not human

Last edited by rogerrespondent; 02/18/08 06:01 AM.

LOVE....TRUST....FORGIVENESS...ARE CHOICES AND VERBS ....NOT FEELINGS!