CeMar:

Having actually experienced passion from a man for the first time in my life, I think I get what you are saying. I cannot, now, imagine being in an R and not having that.

But... there were so many things outside of the actual act of making passionate love that fueled it. My xH was certainly HD, but the resentment and anger he held toward me (justified or not), and mine toward him (justified for not) KILLED it.

I think that is why I've always said that lack of sex is never really the issue... it is just symptomatic of greater underlying problems.

You (the proverbial 'you') cannot treat people poorly and expect to be treated by others in any other way... nor can you accept poor treatment and expect to be treated any other way... for in the act of accepting poor treatment, you are actually confirming that the poor behavior is acceptable.

So I hear you saying that 'passionate' love making is your greatest desire... but nothing about your behavior, at least in the way you write, demonstrates any kind of truth to that statement. The attitude that is reflected in your writing is passionately pissed and resentful. And it seems to me, based on what you say here, that is exactly what you get back.

I really don't know how you could possibly expect to get anything other than that...