True and I don't disagree that can or possibly even should happen and I didn't say it can't be done.

I also know that in most cases if a WAS is not ready to let go or have no contact with OP then then the more you try to force it the more it gives them and OP something to rally against together and unite forces.
Timing is critical to make a no contact rule, even if the purpose is to shock the sh!t out of them.


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Riding the trail less traveled.