w8ing Maybe UD is right start a conversation and just listen listening even if it is surface meaningless stuff helps the connection Maybe try something light see where it leads I think they just shutdown and walk away while in crises the turmoil is too big and they somehow think it is us they need to run from keep the door open in small ways I would ask my H to fix something for me in house..sometimes I just find stuff and when he would fix it I would appreciate him for doing it and it would open ip a safe door or small talk they are shutdown we can lead them back a little it is hard maybe it isnt their fault..they are sick delusional peace
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