Great post, Catfan. I think giving a S "the book" is like talking to them in a foreign language, they just won't get it! Why not? Because in their minds it's all about "feelings" either the positive ones they no longer have for you or the negative ones they do have for you! It is universal with WAS's to believe that feeling rules all, it is unchangable (in thier minds) and reading, marriage counselling etc is all a waste of time, "I can't help what I feel" is the mantra. So, I agree with not giving the book, just follow what it says and see where it leads.