Originally Posted By: Light Seeker
[/i]But I'm discouraged because I have this sense that HDM - and this is a generalization - do not have the patience.


Judging from the many, many HD's on this board with start dates prior to 2006, I would suggest that your generalization is way off the mark. Normally I struggle with patience. I filled up my salt water aquarium much quicker that suggested, etc. Do I want change NOW? Of course, but I am here year in and year out because I want my marriage to get better. In some ways most of us here have too much patience, which allows our spouses to back-slide or make the occasional cosmetic change to the R that doesn't last because they know that we will keep on trying anyway.


Gone the carvings and those who left their mark.
Gone the kings and queens, now only the rats hold sway.