Yes, that's kind of my point... when someone says "everything is great but the sex" aren't they usually glossing over some other interpersonal glitch?

Mojo in her thread just alluded to the fact that she thought the only problem with their marriage was the lack of sex, but isn't this the H who wouldn't put his arm around her when her dad died?

And karen talks about how her H is so wrapped up in his activities that he doesn't have a lot of time for her? When she had that fender bender he was pretty unsympathetic.

That's what I meant by "BETWEEN US." Your partner can be great with other people, with the kids, his parents, his/her clients/customers, but if the sex isn't good or isn't even there, can the R really be that great (or are you kidding yourself about something?)? How can EVERYTHING BETWEEN US be great except lack of sex?