Sorry you don't appreciate this "attitude", but don't presume that I am leaving info. out. I can't give you what I don't have. There is no "woe is me", just frustration and hurt, like everyone else. It is hard to find others on this board in similar situations, but I do take advantadge of what everyone has to say. I do take offense to your supposition that, since my family relaitonships do not mirror yours, they are "odd".