Wow Gel, that is terrific. I wish I could say the same. I honestly feel like it will take some kind of bomb to go off in our R in order for H to get it. There is just this indefinable, can't put my finger on it issue that makes any of my attempts to discuss it, change my behavior, bargain with him, act spicy etc... just silly, surface scratching maneuvers. I feel strongly that until H cops to something - "I am not having sex with you on purpose and it is because......" we won't get anywhere. And the reason can't be stress, tired, overwhelmed etc... It needs to be something specific to him, us or me that is causing us to go around and around the mulberry bush - he can tell me I'm boring, he can say he's addicted to porn, that he only married me to have a family (ILYBNILWY) or something but there has to be something going on that better explains things. I don't want to find out that it is like what your H had going but at least it would be an honest start with cards on the table.

Karen