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[Lanzo]

Sorry to keep popping up, but I did say I'd ride this roller coaster with you. (yes, I also felt the same frustration as you).

For example I'd like to see the day when W will mention R or even invite me into her apartment for some reason or at least initiate a meeting with her for some reason.

Err..... in my opinion you are still a long way from this, at the moment this would be a big ask of W, a big jump rather than a baby step. I think to get W interested in you, you will need to take an interest in her. Example, W's 42" HDTV, could this be a conversation point ? could you possibly talk to her on a level that she understands about the merits of the TV? If you got her excited about it do you think she would show it off to you. You see for W to invite you to her apartment she would need to see you as an interesting friend rather than her stbx and all the baggage that comes with it. Yes to make progress you need to become her friend (urgh!!! )

Keep throwing different bits of bait and see what she bites on, see what get her interested.

Well that's my take on things I'm sure others could put it another way.