thanks for the responses. The support helps so much. Its just after this long it all seems so weird...like I am watching someone elses life....like my life is not mine....i think i am feeling so trapped...one thing i know will help me is financially i made really bad decisions in the stance of "standing" and know 20 plus years of savings is gone we are living well beyond our means and now that the attorneys are involved that will be good that I know what my financial status will be moving forward..what am i responsible to pay, verses him, how much support i will get all of that up until now it has just been him calling all the shots and me going along with it...hoping beyond hope he would wake up...i can no longer afford to do this as he is going to take me down too and i must think of me and the boys....he is different than many mlcers in that he has buddied up with our son, one trigger was our older son became disabled and he thinks he has to be younger sons buddy to save him from what brought on other sons problems....anyway he just has no concept of financially what it takes and thinks we should just seperate split everything, no support and go our seperate ways..he makes approx 80 grand more than me......I hope he is going to get a wake up call...and it is also a turn off that he wants to pay me nothing...i worked 2 jobs for much of our marriage and worked very hard, for probably 15 plus years we made close to the same amount now his career took off..I was never focused on climbing hte ladder becuase we alwasy said when the time came i could stay home blah blah..oh well..its true some days are better than others and i have been reading here about detaching and moving on.....its hard cause he controls so much...but i am trying