The answer was she could be suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome or depression, get her to a doctor. Next time I see her I'm going to show it to her, maybe she'll see it if it is in writing.
Your W should see a Dr. She has something wrong, could be something as simple as anemic or something much more serious. Maybe Ds can convince her to talk with her Dr.
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What kind of seeds for thought are you giving H? I hope I put some in W's head about Retro. And she's afraid we can get back on track but will revert back to where we are now. Mike
[/quote] Mike, I agree with you about Retro. being one of our best bets for each of us. What I do like about the program, the ability to make a life time committment with the program to check and make sure NEVER Again will problems go unaddressed or unnoticed. I have read every word in the website and ask for info. Emailed for info at one location and request for infor by regular mail to my house. Go back to the website and read about other couples experiences. All are short accounts but one talks about a couple in a very short amount of time were calling it quits. The couple holding seminar/retreat, worked with them and was able to convince them to return to group. Everything is private it is not a group confession atmosphere. I like that and am sure your W will to.
How have I been planting seeds....mmmm.. I am not talking , etc. about our relationship but rather trying to get H comfortable with thoughts of any relationship and problems that come about. I am trying to start to communicate with H indirectly about life and individual Rs. For example, I sent him a webpage found about St. Joseph, saint and May 1st is his day of feast, well never knew this and May 1st is our Aniversary day, sent H a funny article written for divorce attornies on how to deal with the current divorce client. Can't explain it on this short post, trust me it was just funny. Sent H Retro. webpage on the 4 stages of marriage, told H I never realized this and ask if in all his time & money he spent with C (about me, unknown to me) if these 4 stages came up? (I know they didn't, I should have taken ethics action against the C for what he did ) Talk/comment to H, without expecting any response about all the information I have been learning about Relationships not just M. How no one teaches us any R skills, no wonder we all find life so confusing!!! Rs are quite structured, with out the ability to "communicate well in R", things quickly become confusing, misunderstood, misinformed, etc. this is sorta stuff I have been expressing, sending , feeding, lol to H. For myself I call this type of topic/issue approach as coming in the "back door". Trying to get H to have R thoughts in his head with out it being connected to us or our M. Don't know if it is working or will backfire.???.. Oh, nearly forgot, I have also talked with H about OW, long term. OW is 20yrs younger than H, so if she wants kids she will have to be doing so soon. I even ask H not to hurt her by staying with her unless he is willing to have kids down the road with her. Even if at the moment OW says she does not want kids. I'm going to give H a birthday gift and shortly there after I might ask him to go to Retro. with me. To please come with me to Retro. so at least I can have closuer. Some how have the feeling my plan will not all work out quite like I hope.
-Love of dogs, every time I loose a dog to the bridge,part of my heart goes too. Ever time a puppy/dog comes into my life,he gives me a part of his heart. If live my life long enough, in time I'll have the heart of a puppy. -unknown (w/character limit)