Wow Kissak, That is a lot of Coming and Going, Thanks for sharing your situation with me. I do see that you are going to stop going down that same old cheeseless tunnel, good for you. Don't even think of taking him back as long as he is with ow. Your obviously getting stronger due to all your pain and past. I have no idea if my H is with another women or not. He swears up and down that it is not any one women-but he feels like it is all other women that he desires other than me (his words). My H said he does not want a R right now. I do have this terrible gut feeling though that he may still be going to strip clubs and texting his old stripper friend all over again. The last couple of days he was with me, he was constantly getting texts and not sharing them with me, and would have a smirk on his face when he would get them. My gut tells me not to believe him (about not seeing any one else) but I just cant tell yet. I am trying not to snoop or have friends snoop for me. But I do drive by his apt. a lot on my way to other things, and he seems to be home about 50% of the time. Not to mention there is one car I am often seeing near his truck, and I am starting to worry. I go by early in a.m. to get to work, and his truck is always alone there-so i guess that is a good thing. He totally agreed with me last summer when I took him back that I felt the stripper was just a band-aid. He said he did not sleep with her as she had a boyfriend and a girlfriend.... Oh my god, I think I better go get tested for std's/aids, cuz I just don't believe him. He has said the same things to me that your H said to you about our M just not being fresh and new and exciting, and that he doesnt like the responsibilities involved with a M. He tells me over & over that his heart is just not in it anymore, and he would rather be friends. I know he is confused, and unsure, I just wish he would be honest with me. Oh well, I have to just try not to dwell on it, it is what it is. Thanks again for sharing. If anyone else would like to share there situation of the coming and going-I am still all ears. TIPPER