Dom,

It will look like this: "Oh yes, I sincerely agree that the church says sex is a fundamental part of M. Of course, the church also does so in order to guarantee children (future Catholics) and so on."

Well, H if you agree it is important why isn't it happening in our M?

Well - x,y,z - tired, stressed, no time, baby, responsibilities etc....

Then after the conversation ends he will not hug me, apologize or any such thing. He will barely look at me (probably stare at the tv instead). Then he will stay up later than me for at least 3 or 4 days. If I were to then ask if he was mad at any of my comments or found them out of line he would say, "No, just tired, stressed, busy, baby etc........... At no time will he commit to any action. If I press it he will describe it as unsexy due to being "forced" to have sex. Apparently, anything that smacks of sex out of duty equates to force.

"Shame" is something I get from his look/demeanor etc... He has never actually said that he feels ashamed. However, it is written all over his behavior.

I cannot say that I am much involved in bible study myself. I am a regular church goer, regular with my prayers both in public (mealtimes etc...) and private. I will once in a while embark on bible study but not that often.

I processed my prior divorce in terms of its religious implications through the annulment process in the Catholic Church. I aired all the dirty laundry and went over it with the Archdiocese and my M was annulled on the grounds that a covenant could not be made under those conditions. It did a great deal to help me get over my difficulties with attending church and feeling ok about my R with God during the whole divorce process. I also went over it in confession when I converted to Catholicism. H is a cradle Catholic. I'm a convert.

Karen