Hey gals - watch out for any guy you get by "vibing across a room". That is exactly how I got both H's. They have given me lovely children and have their strong points but whew, lotsa problems too. Granted, I've told you before that H is a keeper, and he is, but wow - part of what brought both of them from across the room was all those chemicals. OTOH - perhaps if I had recognized better what was going on I would have had a better result. I think I might have still ended up with H but what I shoulda done was date H and a couple other guys too. If I had delayed the sex and upped the competition we might have different dynamic going. I know I'm not single anymore but this thread is lots more fun than being mired in the reality of people's day to day with R's that need so much work.