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did i mention that my wife has been sleeping with a pillow between us, because she tells me that she needs something to hold during the night, and i am too hot(temperature wise)? i call it the separation pillow, and i tell her that it's a metaphor of creating a wall between us, and she says that i am making something out of nothing. i can't even roll over and hold her because she is also so far away on the other side of the bed! i said that maybe i'd be better off sleeping in the guest room. she said that's ridiculous.

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Cozy,

W and I still sleep in separate rooms, except maybe once a month. I am of two minds on this. On the one hand, I think that we might have spontaneous sex if we are sleeping together (doesn't happen). On the other hand, I really sleep much better alone. Also I'm not a huge fan of cuddling while sleeping - I mean what's the point, we're asleep! And I snore, which W hates.

I would take your W at her word. Her pillow is just a pillow.

What I crave is intimacy, preferably during waking hours. A lot of that intimacy can occur in the company of others, but some must be just between the two of us.

A relationship without sex is like a plant with water and sunshine, but no fertilizer. Thrives for a while, but a slow painful death is inevitable. A gross, but apt, metaphor.


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maybe it's just a pillow and i am reading too much into it.
i also get a better night's sleep in another room, but ironically, she gets upset when i sleep in the guest room (i only go there if i cannnot sleep, and need to turn the tv on.)
that's the confusing part: i get intimace during daylight hours, but nothing when it comes to the bed. yet i saw a sex therapist on tv yesterday, and she said that a couple should have sex every two weeks--which is close to the norm for me. maybe it's i that has the problem. i just don't know anymore. i also agree with you about cuddling at night: it only creates frustration.
i just don't know if i am asking for too much. maybe it's me who is the selfish one, but it's just doesn't seem to be natural anymore.

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cozyp828,

Not sure what the therapist meant by it is only needed every two weeks. Maybe she/he meant that, at a minimum, or that the "average" couple did it every two weeks. But don't let that make you think the problem is yours. I firmly believe that there is no magic number, but rather, the issue is one of mismatch. If you have two LD people and they are both happy with once a month, then that is an appropriate number. If you have two HD people and they are both happy with once a day, that is an appropriate number. The problem comes in when those two couples switch spouses, so to speak.

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3/13 - "I want to move to XYZ City (four hours away) and it might be without you, not sure"
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true, but after reviewing my calendars from the past year, i have come to realize that i have sex 1-3 times a month,which i figure would average 2.5 times a month. but let me just say that in order for me to get it more than once a month, i have to pull teeth, so the sex really isn't good as compared to when i get it that one time right after her period. it's rare if i get it more than twice a month; it's even uncertain getting it twice a month. twice a month occurs two weeks after our first time. it may be the norm, but it still feels like once a month, because even when she gives it to me the second time, it feels as if i am asking for so much from her! that's the real problem: she making all kinds of excuses, making it seem as if she has to lay cement, always telling me lets make it a quickie.

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