You know, KIP, I sure wish you could talk to my wife. All she does is "waste time being mad and upset over small stuff." And the past is always ever-present.

Amyway, I'm not suggesting you should cut him off or anything, Charcoal, there just seems to be a disconnect that would be nice to resolve on your parts. (Wouldn't we all like that.) With him providing no help with the house or kids, it must feel like the opposite of trying to be won back. And if you keep giving and he keeps moving away, doesn't seem like it will work. But then, enter the X-OM, and maybe it does make some sense. (But I'm not, this is starting to feel like.)

I think the jim_van quote may say a lot. It bums me out because I came around, and was never in that space. I was always great with the kids and getting up at night with them, and giving my W freedom to go out and do things (actually encouraging her), but was not great with housework and cooking. Yet when confronted, tried to deal with her requests. But in her MLC, I'm still blamed for ruining 12 years of her life, and now I get to sit out this separation and wait and see. I'm haning in there and enjoying and working on myself most of the time, but when you reach out and get slapped, it hurts. I'm guessing that's what you're feeling, Charcoal.

BTW, my PJ bootleg CD showed up yesterday. Fine stuff. Sounds great.
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