Corri When is it 'pushing the envelope,' and how do you know if it has gone too far?[/c] That is too general of a question Corri. I would have to have a " Readers Digest" version of a book, describing what has taken place and how a person got to where they are or want to be.
[b] In other words, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll Tootsie pop? As many as it takes.
My Second thought is, are there some Tootsie Pops that we can admire, but we know shouldn't take possession of. They are for someone else to lick. It's like, X number of Tootsie Pops, X number of lickers. Each person that wants to, gets his choice but no one gets to have all they want. Let’s divide up the Tootsie Pops fairly.
I certainly hit a cord with Lou. Until I hit it... ??? For my clarification, would you relate to or explain the cords you have in mind.
FYI, I relate to many people on this forum in ways that some people would label as too personally.
Some days I can imagine being Lil, or her bf, or Sandi or her H, or Heywire or her H, mostly wondering how it is for each of them. How it might feel to be on each side of their respective fences.
There is the other side of me, when someone posts what hurts them, like Sandi's H, I have too much stuff. Like Lil's bf, some projects around the house take too long to finish. I think, Lou, you better take care of your own stuff. If something like not finishing projects bothers BB, Lil, and Sandi, it must be one of those almost universal things that bother women/people, no wonder BB and I have issues.
Getting back to what I would like. LFL H saying he wanted LFL to put her legs around him. That is something that used to happen to me but not since 1972. I miss it.
Fantasy is fantasy because it is fantasy. Fantasy or is it wishing we could have the better things happening in someone else’s R, happening in our own present Rs?
Mojo said she took (That sounds hot OR the guys wished their W felt that way) comments from male posters that way. I think it is true.
LFL wanted soldier guy and I think others have had similar feelings. What is destructive in my opinion is to want something but not have all of the bases covered, not having almost all of the negative events correctable or covered by damage control.
That is unless you can go from start to finish, do things in the correct sequence, wondering about how many licks it takes, as opposed to licking now and the heck with the consequences, well that is two different situations.
I sometimes wonder but don't have a workable plan start to finish, so I am at the wonder stage.
A couple of years ago, if someone from the forum would have rang my door bell at 1:30PM, on the next to last day of the month, arrived with their motor home, I might have seriously looked at the Tootsie Pop but don't know how far I would have gone in the lick dept. When I don’t have/know the whole plan, not acting seems to be the best plan.
Lou... Lil... I dunno. Sometimes, I just wonder... Any more details on what you had in mind?
me wondering if Hairdog got laid tonight Well, I hope he did! I hope he at least got a good feel. If he did, I hope it was more than insert tab "A" in slot "B" or just a feel. I hope there was an EC too, I really do.
Mojo's recent post of the Black Man article Mojo mentioned people wanting the black man to stay oppressed.
What I see is not wanting anyone to be oppressed or to see anyone fail, it is more like “do we trust this person as he or she presents him/herself?”
Does fantasy cause the angst, or does the reality? For me, reality is the problem. I really don't think what I want is that difficult for many women to do.
If I do share a fantasy, and other can't/won't meet it... is my unwillingness to let go of the fantasy the cause of my unhappiness... or that my partner is actually reticent? That is where reading different forums, from different points of view might knock off some of the out-lying elements of your fantasy. Other parts of your fantasy might seem more normal too.
Reading the SSM forum has helped me.
Reading some parts of the TIH http://www.takeninhand.com/ forum has also helped me. I don’t understand why someone would like to be slapped in the face, but if that is what a woman wants, I still won’t do it but I want to read in order to understand her POV. A Butt slap in a playful mode, I could do that if she likes it.
Then there are the Biblical based M sites where masturbation is a big sin, everything needs to be prayed about, and there isn‘t much room for fantasy. OK, they still have things I can consider as helpful.
NMMNG forum http://nomoremrniceguy.com/forums/index.php, well, that is another POV on life. Maybe it includes a little bit of fantasy. Or maybe false asumptions, like the guy has to try harder, doesn't deserve something are dispelled.
