Thanks Dom. This was a very thoughtful post. I think my H is unusual among Catholics in that his R with God is very personal to him. He keeps a journal, which I gather from him is largely his personal communication with God. I think what he grasps about marriage as an expression of faith is that it is a vocation of its own, that it is forever (come h@ll or high water) and that the having & raising of children is the fruit of this vocation. I know he knows all about the Song of Solomon but discussion of the need for regular sexuality in M gets met with a list of excepts - except when there is a crisis (always, in large families), except when I'm tired, sick, stressed..... I'm willing to accept the premise that he just hasn't met the right source.

What source made a difference to you? What did you learn about marriage that you were willing to change?

Karen