FLTC, I'm just catching up on your thread. Don't worry about the anger you expressed earlier, it's all part of the rollercoaster ride. I wrote practically the same stuff awhile back when I too saw 17 years going down the toilet! It seemed so unreal to me that my W would want to destroy our family over some "feeling" that was no longer present yet she was unwilling to try and get it back, "some people just arent' meant to be together". Yep, it's all written in the friggin stars or some such sh!t, nothing she could do about it! So I respect your anger, let it have it's day and then try to make the next day better for yourself. I'll be thinking of you!!!!