Burgbud you've posted to me a couple of times, I havent been ignoring you intentionally just busy.

I do appreciate your questions. They make me think, Im just not real interested in hashing my stuff out here. I appreciated Fearless's as well.

I thought I would also start up this thread so I can stop jacking others when I want to climb on a soapbox.

let me find your posts to me...

That means you're invulnerable now, right? Not a pejorative question; my understanding is that puppy/bunny = vulnerable, "wants to be cared for" part.

No Im not invunerable. I have my family members that I care for very much. People could hurt my by hurting them. It would be a bad Idea, but its possible.
as far as wanting to be cared for, I make sure it happens. Its my job
I make sure I am fed and cared for in numerous ways. I dont allow women to feed me or clean my house. It affects me. When I was going thru the A, I thought like Dom, cleaning and cooking for me do nothing for me. After a few months, there were many things that I noticed I missed that she did FOR ME.
For example, I like to come home from travel to a made bed and clean sheets. I dont arrive to a messy hotel room I dont want to come home to ANY mess either.
I hired people to handle FITB, when I realized it would touch my puppy and make me feel cared for.

Ive also said, I dont think men should do what I suggest 100% of the time (even if they were able).
How I handle my personal -dont want to want- issues is my problem.
Women arent attracted to needy men, but being needed makes anyone feel more secure.
x had a high sex drive, but her desire was high for a reason. I could have worked on her feeling more secure, but thats not why she left me. She left when she lost her attraction.

There are lots of ways to show you need someone without being needy. I used to give small seemingly insignificant gesture ideas on how to do that.
Im not married, and its not my job to make a woman feel secure. What I try to do in the R's I have with women, has nothing to do with that.

The men who are acting typical nice guy dont need to hear how to make a woman feel more secure. Thats why when the women come after me with it, (cause they are right on some level, even if I cant understand it or refuse it to keep my mind clear and focused) it will just be a source of confusion to someone it doesnt apply to.

A woman wants to have Your children. She doenst want to be your Mom. Save the puppy for your Mom. maybe let him come out to play once every 10 years. (im kidding almost)

This could mean you don't believe women don't understand honor the way you do, nor do they feel obliged to keep their word or be honorable the way you do. Or it could mean you don't believe women understand honor nor do they feel obliged to keep their word *at all*.

Which way is it?

I think they feel obliged to keep their word. I also saw the comments a few people made about their wedding day thats showed it was a taken far less then serious.
If they didnt feel something there wouldnt be all the incongruence and confabulation and actions contradicting words also known as Lies.
I think women recognize 'honor' and appreciate what it can do for them.
David Deida says that keeping your word is a masculine energy. There fore vows are a masculine idea.
Some of the men who I know that are really good at starting up convo's and meeting women, are spectacular in their ability to talk like women do. They change based on every new input and emotion. It lasts about as long as mayfly season.

Being naive about what others are capable of seems foolish, but others also tend to give what we expect of them. It's a dilemma.
While what you say is typical human behavior, in business I found it far more effective to exceed expectations. They may want to hear promises, but Im not a genie so Im not giving them. I dont promise sh!t. Im not nearly as succesful as Microsoft either, so it depends on whats important to you. x hated that I wouldnt promise anything.
for a man in a LTR, i recommend walking the fine line between talking about what you want to accomplish and what you would like to do while avoiding promising things just to get her to 'lay off' with the pressure. That is disrepectful and P/A.

If you want to settle down, rest, and be done, then there is no shared goal or pyschological 'baby' for you and your W to work together on. Personally I would like it if she found her own thing to do,(just like I do) but invariable that seem to lead to her finding someone else to do it with....
Do what works.

saying you dont want to do FITB, without providing an alternative, is either lazy or insecure. Nothing wrong with lazy. everyone needs to recharge. Make sure that its understood you are temporarily recharging.
For ex. Corri would probably have loved if her x had taken up Ballroom dancing w/ her. or suggested something like it.