I feel like this is just the reality of the world we live in. Our world is our world, their world is theirs. We can't make them do anything...it really is their world, we can't really can't control them.

I don't think it's necessarily defeatist. We do have an impact. What we can do is make it as easy as possible for them to choose us over whatever else there is out there. I bet you could do some terrible things to ensure she never would come back...you can also do some good things that will help her decide she does want to come back. But it's ultimately her choice.

But you know all this, from seeing your posts on here you know what you're doing. I know it hurts, but you know in your head that what you were doing had some effect...she went from a 10 minute call once a week to spending a ton of time with you, she even had her ring back on at one point, yes? Maybe it was just too fast and then she got confused. But what you did worked once, keep it up, and maybe take it slower next time...do what works, don't do what doesn't...simple advice, but we all have trouble following it sometimes.

Hang in there...


Me: 43 W: 41
Together 2009, Married 2011
Sons 10 and 6, Daughter 5
Bomb 2/21/21. W moved out 10/2021