Angelica: I'm glad to not be involved with them, to have let him know in every sense of the word that maggot was not someone I ever cared to meet - she was the devil! My children are totally of the same opinion of their own accord as they were old enough to understand. I am grateful that they only see their father outside of his "little love nest" as maggot describes it. They choose not to meet our acknowledge maggot. Ashley tells me it bothers her terribly when he refers to "his wife". His family don't like her but put up with her for his sake. I have no idea how much involvement there is, but judging by how rarely we saw his relatives - I suspect little.

I think the damage was done a long time ago and we just brace ourselves at times (like Christmas) when there will be interaction. Looks like I'm good for a while. Ash will graduate college in 18 months and I expect that will be the next time I see him. At her high school grad I had Brandon go sit with him somewhere else. He was refusing to pay her costs at the time and I wanted to spit on him. It was better for all concerned this way.

Barb