Thanks guys. Yeah, CVA it is nice. We don't deserve to be treated like this. Nobody does. I would still love for my WAW to decide to give us another try and would love to have that option to ponder. But, I dont see her even considering that anytime soon. She had made up her mind a long time ago that she did not want to be married to me anymore and had convinced herself that she couldnt be happy while being married. She has yet to start her personal journey of figuring out what she needs to be happy. I don't really think at this point that she will reconsider anything while we are still married and living in the same house. I did have hope at first when she agreed to go to couseling 9 mons ago or so. But, now I realize she just did that to help me cope. We get along great. Are friendly. Nice to eachother. Whenever I was feeling resentful and was kinda cold to her she did the same thing right back. When I'm nice she's nice. Although, I think I have a little more reason to be upset. But, regardless, I have really tried to let go of my resentment and hurt and in turn help her get over her guilt. I dont think I am at the point where WAW's hubby is at. And dont think I ever will. It is going to take along time to get over her. If she made a sincere attempt and asked me for forgiveness I would do it in a heartbeat. I've never been good at holding grudges. It's hard to just throw away 11yrs. This new friend of mine has been a breath of fresh air, but I have told her that I am not looking for anything serious and she is ok with that. Ofcourse, she is probably hoping things might change in the future (Since us Dbers are such great catches - Wink Wink). Which they very well may. Right now, like I said before, I am just enjoying the companionship from another adult that is nice and friendly to me. I think after going through what we all have been through its good for the soul. Not to mention the ego