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IMHO she is feeling ALOT of guilt or nervousness about this, even if she was only thinking about an A and nothing happened with OM.

Yes she is and that is why it is time to drop it. If you cause her to be reminded of this guilt she will grow to resent you.

You said what you needed to say.

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W was still very worried about me not believing her about not having an A. I said what does it matter if I don't believe you? You don't believe me that I'm going to change? I cannot control what you do, nor am I trying anymore. If you have nothing to hide then why be worried about what I think?

Is that the way to empathize? She was trying to share and you made it all about you. How many times did you say the word "YOU" to her here.

Every time was a direct attack.

Think about it. What will you say next time? She is hurting and you basically kicked her to the curb.

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I took the phone bill and laid it on counter and strategically placed it so that OM's # was in plain view

Another direct attack. All about you and your hurt feelings.

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I MUST get DB/DR book ASAP! I need to educate myself quick!

Yes. But you need the N.U.T.s book also. Trust me - it addresses everything you need to work on as a man.

BTW, you are doing EXACTLY the same things I did. So don't beat yourself up. It takes time to learn these tools.

Strength and Honor.


Jeff

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