Hi Sara, havent had a chance to post lately, but W still hasnt given me an answer as to whether she will go to retro, but I am keeping up hope. She is trying so hard to be independent, thinking that she will be ok if this D goes through. She proudly announced on monday nite that she and her D friend, were going away for a few days on the eastern shore of maryland to visit a place that she says I would never go to. Apparently about 10 years ago, W suggested we go to this same place for vacation and I said no. I dont remember any of this, but I do remember going to the shore a few times. I asked to have an answer when she comes home this weekend, as we need to get scheduled before it fills up. Our session is going to be held at a monastery, and with my W still going to mass most mornings, I have to hope that there is still something in her heart that may change. My biggest hurdle is that the W works with so many D women at work. One in particular is M a second time, and has to be unhappy in that M b/c she spends alot of her time with my W. Talked to the priest that married us as he has been in contact with my W. He said that she wasnt gung ho on doing the retro, but I didnt think you needed to be totally 100% intent on staying together to do this. As I have read in this thread, there are alot of M on the brink, as well as D and seperated attending. W hasnt said no, so I guess that is a good thing.