I think experimentation at some point is all that is going to have us make any progress.
Yes, Brit, good advice for lizzy and anyone really. I experimented with my H to see how he would react, and I never really expected anything good or bad, so if it didn't work, I would say ok don't do that again. So experiment with little things and not just do things that you know will push his buttons. As we all can do that out of habit.
Me:49 H:47 S: 16 T:27 M:25 My EA: 2001 His PA: 10/2007, 6/2013 Separated, but H still in house
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