And why would I want to share my self and accept another with my eyes wide open after a few beers and a charming smile

I havent met anyone who does or can .. myabe after a few milligrams of MDMA... but the government frowns on that, and pfizer cant make any money off of it. Patent expired.

I love it when men tell me how I feel

I know \:\) Seriously this is the 3rd time at least that you have tried to start this convo. I can go pull threads and quotes if you like. All of them made some comment pointing to the fact that I am not in a LTR, as if that is some sort of standard to be held to. It is for some things... but I am not a woman, and I wont be forced into a womans frame of referance. so you avoid intimacy with your long distance R, and enjoy your serial monogamy, and Ill be happy for you, and not try to convince you my way is better, and Ill avoid intimacy in my way. You and Mojo can lead your men on and I wont say one thing about it, the NG's and GP's of the world are big boys, just dont try to convince me your way is better coming from my direction.

Unless of course you ladies are entering these R's with INTENT. \:\/ I think we had that convo allready. \:\/

Those actions clearly state you don't want an LTR, and do a fine job of avoiding them all together Yes. they do. Im not leading anyone on, talking about fake futures. in fact when she started up the fake fantasy talk, I interjected with 'hey lets go talk to a lawyer about prenups'. youd think someone pissed in her wheaties.

you get on here saying what women want in a mate No. Ive talked about attraction and what women want to feel desire. according to mojo, women want to pair bond with a provider/protector. A tool (pardon the pun) to facilitate her baby making desire.
her biggest motivation for a mate is children no. her biggest desire is children. If she has had children, then she doesnt need a tool anymore, she can go chase her desire. her children are not necessarily from mating with her provider/protector choice, she got what she wanted, and its her little secret.
LFL said Need control/not be controlled. Two sides of the same coin. I still think you are going to hurt yourself in the long run with this attitude. It may have worked short term but I don't think it's a long term R/M solution. JMHO
and thats probably very very true. I dont agree with the hurting myself part, but the rest I actually completely agree with it. x verified it pretty unequivocally. I always got the feeling x just wanted me for a college fling, and as soon as I dropped into the provider role, she banged the dominant guy. Mission accomplished, I got played, my congratulations to her. so we are starting to flesh out the female version a M/W a little more. womens inability to integrate their conflicting desire/need for 'dominant' and 'provider'. I know which side I have been succesful on and that side gives me what I want.

you've got it figured out and are doing fine on your own, so why do you keep asking my opinion?
just curious if you can spot yourself trying to squeeze a man into a feminine frame. since you keep trying, apparently not. \:\) then again, maybe you want to try, but not be succesful. \:\)

Snort. And what one woman has had a chance to?
a couple.

That is my most favorite conversation in the whole wide world by the way....

the one that starts with the accusation that I am a commitment phobe. snort.

I'm not sure where you are getting that from anything I've said. And really, why would you care if I thought you were one or not anyway?

oh, this wasnt about you, just the word commitment jogged my memory, about the dozen or so times women try to use a word I can recognize and respect to try and force me into a box. I just ask them to define commitment now and then they get angry and tell me 'you just dont get it' and flounce off, at least untill they realize Im not following.
and that takes care of that attempt to manipulate me.

Sometimes a partner who's terrified of rejection and the uncertainty of new love will choose to end a relationship very early. A person who does this is usually at an insecure time in his or her life or is still hurting from a previous rejecting relationship. By seizing the pivotal role of rejecter

I wouldnt be able to do what I do with who I do, if rejection bothered me. Im not uncertain about new love at all. I dont reject, it would defeat the purpose of what I do. Im a builder, not a wrecker. (and I dont placate to end the R mojo. I did in my M, on accident at first, but I was being a P/A pr!ck at the end. It wouldnt be honest, and I just cant stomach it. It makes me nauseous.)
I should turn in my Life Card, give up the game, throw up my hands... quit? I hope not. take the hairshirt off. (IC, and HD join blackfoot in waiting for corri to remove her hairshirt. any bets on leather or lace, underneath? I got my fingers crossed for neither, LOL. ) bitter for you XH? I think not. Im not even bitter about mine. I hope x has beautiful babies and is having lots of willing sex with her new H.

Because we are all fallible, and we fck up, and we hurt each other, and we cry. Fine. Yep. No problems with that. 50/50 means I take care of my fences and she takes care of her fences. I guarantee she cannot maintain my fences. and if she steps out of our fence, Im going to mend it instantly and she will be outside the fence, free to start her own farm.
Im done belaboring the fences.

There is no bending with you Thank you. see I can learn this integrated male stuff. seriously, not when it comes to adultery. I dont understand the men who live in their basement while their W brings home OM. boggles my mind.

Rs are not a business, no matter how much you'd like for it to be No they are not. and I dont have a problem with R's, I dont want women to be men. Im not to shabby at em. I figured out how to do it in the midst of a affair, this...now... with no stress and pressure... piece of cake.
We were talking about Marriage though and that IS a business, or you wouldnt be agreeing to and signing a corporate partnership. The parting gift rules are not very 'partnership' oriented. A lot of times men want to get married so they dont have to play the game anymore. Not me. Ill happily play and when I get tired, Ill leave. Women want to marry me so they can trap me with my word and honor, things they dont ken or feel obliged by.

I wonder how many 18, 19 year old boys who in the middle of a fire fight said, when the blood and guts where flying and oozing, "I didnt know what I was doing, I was too young to sign my life away to the government". probably more then a few. I wondered how it worked out for them and their team when they either started pointing their guns at each other, or threw down their guns and ran away. lol.

as for women who wished or told their man to leave her alone and go have an affair or find a f**k buddy.... well dont say things you dont mean unless you have a guy who can read your mind. Then again, maybe you did mean what you said. He did, and you got your desire back. Personally Ive spent a lot of effort getting out of the habit of telling OP thats not what they mean. I still slip up a lot. its just easier then asking. LOL. still It smacks of something.... In fact its been very eye opening doing exactly what women tell me to do. Who knew, they do know what they need.

BF can't possibly understand how different it is to try to date and/or form a relationship when you are a middle-aged mother of adolescents who is dating men in their 40s/50s who have been around the block and been burnt quite probably more than just once or twice.

poor poor mojo. ;\) yeah. I cant understand. One of my friends is 37 with a 18 y.o. daughter who is pregnant. (not by me) You made a choice. even if I couldnt understand, it was still your choice. I actually like the 40ish set. we meet, have a nice time, the drama stays on the stage where it belongs. no come rescue me nonsense. Their busy, they like schedules. Not like the younger ones who like to pop in unexpectedly or even when told not too. LOL.

returning this thread to its original intent, look at the actions, and youll see the answer. I dont see that as being a wrong or bad thing. You are what you it.