RealJourney - thanks for this - I was just having a low moment back there, when others were posting about the decision about whether or not to go on having sex with their WAS MLCers, and I wondered if I was a freak, because my h had such a lack o desire for me.

However good our self validation is, I think we all sometmes wonder if it was REALLY us. We wouldn't be human otherwise, and since our WAS are so SURE it is us, it rubs off just a little!

Someone else also posted that we often have a bad time just prior to moving to a new level of detachment, and that has certainly been true of me.

My h has never attempted to share any of his past thinking; he is still sure he was right in everything, and everyone else is just plain wrong, unsympathetic, uncomprehending and unloving, and I since have been at this quite a long time, so I guess I am a little battle weary.

If he once said something halfway nice I think I would faint!

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